Talk:Mediterranean climate

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Bay laurel and buckeye[edit]

Bay laurel and Buckeyes aren’t trees, especially the Aesculus californica.

They are both shrubs, while the Bay laurel is an evergreen and the and the Buckeyes is a flowering plant.

Every source calls them a large shrub or a small tree, but I think if we would take the 10 meters designation, and other features, it is more of a shrub.

for the Aesculus California, it is usually described as a shrub, and only in rare cases as a tree. So in this case it is much easier. https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/aesculus-californica/ based here.

דולב חולב (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other Aesculus are trees, but not the ones found in the Mediterranean climate. דולב חולב (talk) 15:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fruit “trees“[edit]

On the paragraph of fruit trees, you wrote grapes, which are obviously not trees, and olives which are commonly mistaken for trees, but are actually shrubs. I suggest you to write Fruit plants , instead of the word trees. דולב חולב (talk) 15:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I live in a Cs- like region and here Olive plants are definitly trees. dont know about grapes though.PAper GOL (talk) 20:15, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Grapes are definitely not trees, same for olives דולב חולב (talk) 14:27, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@דולב חולב Neither the word tree nor the word shrub are strictly defined, and choosing an arbitrary line to delineate them is not helpful. Olives may not fit your definition of tree, but they do fit most colloquial and technical definitions, and are very rarely called an 'olive shrub'. This is also the case in most Mediterranean countries, where the word 'tree' is embedded into the word for the olive plant (see Greek ελαιόδεντρο and Turkish zeytin ağacı). Uness232 (talk) 14:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It’s because those countries aren’t featuring a lot of real tall trees. But from what I’ve learned, the 10 meters definition is well agreed upon. דולב חולב (talk) 14:15, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No real tall trees in Turkey??!
And olives are 100% trees in my homeland. I know what I saw. They are called olive trees all the time.PAper GOL (talk) 14:28, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@דולב חולב Both Greece and Turkey do indeed have areas with a proper, tall forest canopy, and as Paper GOL implied, this is most apparent in Turkey. Even if we don't count the temperate rainforest stretching across the northern part of the country, heavy winter rainfall in much of Aegean and Mediterranean Turkey permits growth of forests dominated by Pinus brutia, a tree with a canopy above 30m in primary forests. Furthermore, due to the rather sharp gradient between marine and continental climates in Turkey (unlike Spain, for example); transitional regions where forest landscapes are not possible but olives can be grown are incredibly rare, only really appearing in primary form in and around rain-shadowed areas near the coast (see Mersin). See the maps included in this paper for the unique state of Turkey compared to Spain or Greece.
The 10 meter definition is one definition out of many, which is why the Olive article describes the plant as "a small tree of shrub". Uness232 (talk) 22:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway, you cannot write “fruit trees” and include grapes and figs in it.
I think a word like plants or crops would fit better. דולב חולב (talk) 16:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grevillea[edit]

As for Grevillea, if you’re talking about Grevillea striata , so yes it’s are a tree.

but Grevillea striata isn’t common in those regions. All of the other Grevillea plants common in a Mediterranean climate, aren’t trees. דולב חולב (talk) 15:50, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wording[edit]

@Uness232 if the problem with my edit is only a matter of wording, than I’d love if you could do it yourself. דולב חולב (talk) 14:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's also a matter of sourcing, along with questionable need for such a statement. Uness232 (talk) 00:32, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Color for Csa is impossible to see in illustrations.[edit]

When looking at Csa in the diagrams (maps) the Csa color is nearly impossible to distinguish from the background grey color. For examples:

I posted an inquiry about this issue at Talk:Köppen_climate_classification#Color_for_Csa_is_impossible_to_see_in_illustrations

If you have any ideas, please comment there. Noleander (talk) 04:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What are the properties of the device you are using?
Because I'm fine with those yellow like pixels.PAper GOL (talk) 10:20, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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